Global spells (Wind/Holy)

Just curious on peoples views on global spells. Spells that affect the entire map, or are not limited by range. Personaly, I'm not sure. Not saying that there is a planned global spell or anything - just wondering what the community though about it . I think it MIGHT be workable for support spells, but not for any type of offensive. The reason being is that, atleast in -anns, or tournament 62 games - you can have one team that uses a "Global" team and then kills the Archer or Paladin, or something without even leaving base, or camping fountain or something gay. Now, of course, we could make it so those spells don't work on NPC heroes, but it's still gay because...well you're not in range for gold or exp. Global offense doesn't work in a system where you don't get exp/gold for the actual kills, but for your presense instead.

Anywho, and EXAMPLE spell (Not what I would neccisarily suggest) is this:

Breath of Life (1 level) [C]

Effect: Using the wind currents, the mage breathes life into his allies. All creeps get a ressuruction buff, which upon their death will bring them back to life (Can be dispelled). Makes all allies move at max speed while channeled. Also gives a 50HP/Second regen to mages while channeled.

Mana Cost: 250
Casting Type: Channel
Casting Range: Global
Cooldown: 41 seconds
Move speed increase: 250% (Will bring units to max movespeed, but still able to be slowed down, but barely)
HP Regen (Heroes only): 50Hp/Second
Ressuruction (Creeps only): Brings them back to full HP after dying.
Skill Point Cost: 21
Total Skill Point Cost: 21

I don't know. That's just an example, off the top of my head, and I didn't spend ANY time theorycrafting numbers or anything. I don't expect this to be anywhere near balanced, however do you guys think that Global spells can be balanced, and even then have a place in this game?

Discuss.

I still think range should be a factor. Even in a spell such as that, the person channeling should have to be near the battle. We could use a few very long range spells, but I don't think global is a good idea.

Alright, for those who don't think global spells shouldn't be implemented, even as support, what should be the furthest range of a spell?

Also, what's the Exp/Gold range currently? And the furthest spell currently? I assume it's either crushing wave with gear, or GG...I don't know how far it bounces.

Magic missile ne1? w/ 2500 its the farthest, but Crushing wave is 1000 w/ item. GG is around 750 for the first bounce, so maybe up to 1300 or so.

You need to add the aoe to the range for the full range. Granite Grenade does half distance right? So it would be 1312.5 range. Then you have to add in the aoe, which I think is about 250.

Flare also has large casting range and even larger aoe. It might beat Magic Missile, someone should check.


I think the largest range anything aoe should have is about 2000. For other things, it would have to depend on the spell.

O pfft, Flare and Magic missle >.<. Whatever . Anywho, actual opinions on Globals Lagger?

I think that if they are balanced, and they work well as a spell idea, I would fully suppory them, and I like the concept of global spells, as you may have noticed, most of my spell ideas tend to be big, game-changing/push-wiping spells. I do also see the difficulty of not getting the kill XP/gold, and also balanceing w/ killing the NPC heros w/o leaving the base.

One of my ideas for a global spell is essentially an HP regen remover/invis detection, simply dealing a small amount of damage constanly, like 1-2 dmg. This allows people to see where invis units are, and counters some regen, all without being able to kill someone.

ME think global Spells SHOULD be in map but have a LONG cooldown like a 3-5 minuet cooldown

this is a good idea n should be like 4 minuets

like every element combos has 1 that have LONG cooldowns and are VERY StRoNg

Book Toggling resets cooldowns, making any cooldown over 22 seconds ineffectual. Nice try.

ya no global spells...spells with large aoe sure but not global.

"Total Skill Point Cost: 21" ?

If nova is still 28, please fix that... o.O