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PostSubject: Will Obama be good?   Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:52 pm

I'm wondering everyone's opinion on if Obama will be a good president or not. Some people I talk to say he is a fool who knows how to brainwash the population, while others say he will bring stability back to the country.


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PostSubject: Re: Will Obama be good?   Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:01 pm

Anything is better than Bush. Let's get that out of the way first. Heck, even Bush is better than Bush.


I hope he will do well, and things look promising so far, but you never know.
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PostSubject: Re: Will Obama be good?   Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:02 pm

Yeah, I agree. There's no comparison to Bush. He was terribad to the maximum.
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PostSubject: Re: Will Obama be good?   Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:03 am

I think he'll do good. He has a good cabinet.

People will just say he did bad, not realizing what he's starting with. People who say he's bad...wouldn't do a better job. At least not with the way the country is right now.

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PostSubject: Re: Will Obama be good?   Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:03 am

Since when did "terribad" become mainstream? I created that word!
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PostSubject: Re: Will Obama be good?   Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:27 pm

Just because Sin uses the word doesn't mean it's "mainstream".

I don't know if Obama will do *well* or not. I think he has his work cut out for him. The country is still divided. People are afraid. They can't see a future for themselves or the country. We need a leader that has a vision. We need a leader that can communicate that vision. We need a leader that can calm our fear and produce, rather than promise, results.

He can't do it alone.
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PostSubject: Re: Will Obama be good?   Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:36 pm

it depends. define 'good'-- stopping the war, finding an alternate energy source, fixing internal conflict like jobless citizens.

overrall, i think obama will do well.
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PostSubject: Re: Will Obama be good?   Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:01 pm

AquaAscension wrote:
Just because Sin uses the word doesn't mean it's "mainstream".

I don't know if Obama will do *well* or not. I think he has his work cut out for him. The country is still divided. People are afraid. They can't see a future for themselves or the country. We need a leader that has a vision. We need a leader that can communicate that vision. We need a leader that can calm our fear and produce, rather than promise, results.

He can't do it alone.


Hence why he is creating one of the best cabinets in history. (IMO)
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PostSubject: Re: Will Obama be good?   Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:51 am

But I'm not talking about just a concerted political effort... there also needs to be American Citizens that are willing to follow him. That's where he may come into problems. We're divided as a nation and, from my experience, tend to refuse to accept when we're wrong. Anyone from a different country (Jay, others?), is this a universal human thing or is it a culturally instilled thing? Thing = refusing to accept being wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Will Obama be good?   Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:43 am

Universal. Even when you KNOW you're wrong, people tend to deny it (Especially girls, not meant to be sexist, but it's so true Razz). Right now Canada might be having a coalition government (Which is like a minority government). Liberals can't stand they lost. People who voted conservative can't admit that the conservative party right now isn't that great. Everyone is just in denial XD.

With regards to the PEOPLE not accepting Obama, I don't think that'll happen. I mean outwardly they might not because of blatant racism, and even then only in certain states/places. However, people also will somewhat do what they're told to do...people as a majority are sheep like. It depends on the crowd they hang out with really....Even if their crowd is wrong, until someone (With authority) from their crowd says "Ya let's support Obama) they'll be anti-Obama...Even if they don't feel he's doing bad, or better yet actually doing good.

The moment Fox news starts saying good stuff about Obama (That isn't a back handed compliment, like "He's smart for getting Hilary in the cabinet. Not because she's good, but so he can keep an eye on her, and so she doesn't run in 2012. That cunning bastard Obama.")

Anywho, let's just hope he does well. He seems to have potential.

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PostSubject: Re: Will Obama be good?   Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:53 pm

On the general idea of people being easy to lead/predictable i have to agree. Issac Asimov presents a rly cool situation based somewhat on that in the Foundation series. Obama may have trouble if people begin to think he has no talent of his own. By surrounding himself with good people, he may run the country well, but relying too much on others may lead to skeptisism and negative atitude towards him.
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PostSubject: Re: Will Obama be good?   Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:18 pm

Which means people are setting him up to fail. I don't care if he has no talent and relies on other people to get results. What I care about are those results. I can't say that I don't care how he goes about getting results, because that would be untrue (i.e. unethically pursuing ends), but that's a tangent.

Good to know that denial and an unwillingness to accept defeat is universal... that almost sounds like survival instinct on steroids. Funny how a ton of old habits that kept humans alive may now be detrimental to survival. Like our craving for carbohydrates and sweets from hunter/gatherer times. Now the stuff's so available that obesity is an epidemic in the U.S. and along with that so is type II Diabetes.
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PostSubject: Re: Will Obama be good?   Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:34 pm

Funny when what was once good becomes bad, and what may have been bad becomes good. Really cool concept.

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PostSubject: Re: Will Obama be good?   Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:05 pm

solo = does poorly, bad attitude toward obama

team = good job, bad attitude toward obama


i'd rather have the 'team' scenario...
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PostSubject: Re: Will Obama be good?   Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:52 am

no-end of story
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PostSubject: Re: Will Obama be good?   Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:05 pm

Way to have any faith in your country.

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PostSubject: Re: Will Obama be good?   Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:16 pm

i lost faith in it a birth =/
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