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PostSubject: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Wed May 28, 2008 9:37 pm

Alright, this one should be it. Most stable version... Also did a bit of balancing. State of the Game is coming up, so enjoy.

I removed the Mediafire mirror because it's far too hard to get it to upload (takes forever and sometimes freezes)... so I will be using only epicwar until I find another mirror/people complain.


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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Wed May 28, 2008 9:43 pm

use the hive!
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Wed May 28, 2008 9:48 pm

HOLY bear!! I am officially making a Lightning mage. The most OP element just got a MASSIVE buff, and I am definitely jumping on that bandwagon. Here I come to the crossing of no skill and over-powered.

Edit: I accept your censor, but next time just ask and I'll do it myself.


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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Wed May 28, 2008 10:03 pm

Random buffs to lightning are good, but what needs to be changed still remains unchanged (thunderbolt) and the need for skill to use the element effectively. Lightning doesn't need buffs, it need to have skill and potential with that skill. Scaling of how effectively and effeciently someone can play with that element.

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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Wed May 28, 2008 11:15 pm

I agree that Thunderbolt needs to be changed and that Lightning in general should be made more skill-based. BUT, if you have played recently you would realize how many people are using Lightning right now. Now I personally cannot believe the weakest element would also be the most popular: It simply makes no sense. Currently, I am seeing massive amounts of Lightning/Light players (no multibook) who basically take turns using all their mana then kamikaze, rez, repeat with other partner. Using a combination of Light and Lightning elemental set, they can easily have over 1200 hp, 1000 mp, and 95 power. I have seen those higher, but that is roughly the best average you can attain. (For instance, I have seen some with only 700 hp but over 110 power...)


Seriously, I do not think it needs anymore buffs... In fact, I am seriously considering either avoiding games with Lighting mages, or making one of my own due to the huge mana cost reduction on Lightning Strike. That is by far the best single target nuke in the game, and you just made it have the lowest mana cost. It was PERFECTLY balanced. It is instant, unable to be dodged, and can easily take off half of the hp of most mages. (Assuming no critical.) Now you have made it the lowest mana cost and CD of all the basic nukes in addition to all that.
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Wed May 28, 2008 11:17 pm

I do not support any of the lightning changes other than purge.
The high mana cost on lightning strike was the deterrent for casting it unless you thought you'd turn it into a kill. Now it will be used for harassment as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Wed May 28, 2008 11:20 pm

The only one that really matters is Lightning Strike. The rest are bad, (Well, Tazer was a little overcosted.) but really understandable. But, making the best single target spell (and the primary attack spell for Lightning) have 50% less cost and CD was REALLY bad IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Wed May 28, 2008 11:24 pm

Did a mountain giant do something to you as a child Sin? You sure seem to like raping it to hell and back for no reason.
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Wed May 28, 2008 11:36 pm

srry bout that az he saw me and my lucky ass hit 2 fissure and said NERFED ITS NERFED MUAHHAHHAHAAHAAA
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Wed May 28, 2008 11:45 pm

Its just that when fissure and bash both have a chance applied to them the chance for stun just become ridiculous, Though I would just say lower the stun time by a bit...
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Wed May 28, 2008 11:48 pm

I don't agree with any sort of nerf because in the grand scheme of things, mountain giant form blows.
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Wed May 28, 2008 11:54 pm

It's most used because it's most noob freindly. That's what I've been saying...On this version Lightning is OP now with low mana costs, easy to use and such. I want lightning to have more skill to use, but more potential. Not something anyone can pick up and point and click and win. The buffs to lightning should be potential wise - so if you can aim, no how to time stuff you can do well with it. If you can't you do worse with the element. Lightning needs more skill to use. more potential with that skill. It doesn't need mana cost buffs, though Lightning strike @ like 125 would be better, then purge is fine, taser needs less than 180, like 150 or so.

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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Wed May 28, 2008 11:56 pm

At high levels its ok if used as a pure tank, at low levels it is imba. I think it would be better if the mg just learned skills the earth mage learns (SOME) so he grows with the character, but that would probably mean you have to change some of the earth spells around.
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Thu May 29, 2008 12:05 am

OMFG TY AZMUND YOU READ MY FRICKEN MIND
MG=sucks so nerf=GAY
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Thu May 29, 2008 12:16 am

I think with the new nerf the fissures should now be allowed to activate on units. I believe this is only fair... (High level people wouldn't use MG anyway...)

P.S. I vote that SinisteRing is banned from playing MM&M. Ever. Whenever anything beats him he nerfs it. Harden skin makes MG hard to kill? Nerfed. Fissure hits him twice in a row due to insane luck? Nerfed. Icy Winds + Wind Elemental slows him all to hell? Nerfed. Bless owns his ass by being cast on a MG? Nerfed. This list could go on for days. Everything that ever killed him has gotten nerfed. (Actually, on second thought, I vote he is allowed to play one more game against a full Lightning/Light team.)


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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Thu May 29, 2008 12:18 am

Shae does, and w/ a light behind her she is freaking impossible to kill.
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Thu May 29, 2008 12:37 am

Then go kill the damn light keeping her alive, a mountain giant is hardly a threat.
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Thu May 29, 2008 1:21 am

I really don't like how the only M-book spells are dark combos. at least on West, at least 1/2 of all mages are dark (at least it feels that way). between the fact that they are the only ones w/ a Muilti spell, and that they can do almost 500dmg to a single target w/ carrion swarm kinda make them OP atm, IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Thu May 29, 2008 3:12 am

Lagger09 wrote:
I really don't like how the only M-book spells are dark combos. at least on West, at least 1/2 of all mages are dark (at least it feels that way). between the fact that they are the only ones w/ a Muilti spell, and that they can do almost 500dmg to a single target w/ carrion swarm kinda make them OP atm, IMO.

Then you are very short sighted, I see many M-Book Spell combos that rape face.
But why tell people when I can hoard them to myself. Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Thu May 29, 2008 3:31 am

I assume he's talking about the M-book ultimate spells.
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Thu May 29, 2008 8:25 am

i play this version and game give fatal eror when 5 mint later.. and now i create one more game and i have fatal again.. maybe my warcraft game bad . Or it can be this version dont know..
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Thu May 29, 2008 11:10 am

i used to have that prob, go to blizzard's trouble shooting, that fixed it for me
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Thu May 29, 2008 11:24 am

Dragonheart91 wrote:
I think with the new nerf the fissures should now be allowed to activate on units. I believe this is only fair... (High level people wouldn't use MG anyway...)

P.S. I vote that SinisteRing is banned from playing MM&M. Ever. Whenever anything beats him he nerfs it. Harden skin makes MG hard to kill? Nerfed. Fissure hits him twice in a row due to insane luck? Nerfed. Icy Winds + Wind Elemental slows him all to hell? Nerfed. Bless owns his ass by being cast on a MG? Nerfed. This list could go on for days. Everything that ever killed him has gotten nerfed. (Actually, on second thought, I vote he is allowed to play one more game against a full Lightning/Light team.)

The game where he said "That needs to be nerfed" (fissure proc) he was a light mage and tank was earth... on his team.

He won the game.

-->Replay Here<--

Edit=Yeah, on units seems fine right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Thu May 29, 2008 1:08 pm

No, he had previously, and has since, been owned by it. I know because I have been on the team that owned him.
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PostSubject: Re: Latest Release: Alpha 7.09a   Thu May 29, 2008 1:45 pm

First off, take this to another thread, quote this message, then respond there. Bring this to the Balance section, not my precious release thread.

Mountain Giant upsets me due to the fact that 20% is 1/5 attacks. 20% to do an AoE stun with damage is insane. Now I know you say that 1/5 attacks is fair enough, because there's only a slight chance for permastun. The problem comes when all you have to do is...

Click.

Permastun has been initiated. Once the stun is redone, he can be buffed up again. Currently, you say he sucks... but he rapes early game and is still pretty damn hard to kill late-game when there's a light mage near them.

All will be balanced in sweet time.
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