Clan Discussion

The clans disorganization and immature teenage battles make it non-welcoming to new members. It also seems like no one is in charge. From my point of view, being a newer member, I see almost everyone in the clan with a position of power in some form or another. Chieftain, Shaman, Moderator, Head Admin, ex-Shaman, Mapper, etc. There isn't a solid structure in the clan in terms of hierarchy and I wonder if you guys are trying to come off as a clan where everyone is just a group of friends and shares equal power, or maybe something else.

/discuss

What power in the clan do the Moderators, Head Admin, ex-Shaman or Mapper have?

Also the chieftain or shamans aren't online very often so i would rather say there is noone with power.

I'm on quite a bit, but I have been on less for the past few days because I've been playing other games (Fallout3 Diablo2:LOD), since too much W3x get boring over a 1 week vacation. I do get on every day, though.

Fritz wrote:

There isn't a solid structure in the clan in terms of hierarchy and I wonder if you guys are trying to come off as a clan where everyone is just a group of friends and shares equal power

Yeah, that would be great.
COMMUNISM FOREVER!

Belial wrote:

What power in the clan do the Moderators, Head Admin, ex-Shaman or Mapper have?

Also the chieftain or shamans aren't online very often so i would rather say there is noone with power.

Exactly.

Fritz wrote:

I see almost everyone in the clan with a position of power in some form or another. Chieftain, Shaman, Moderator, Head Admin, ex-Shaman, Mapper, etc.

Who, me?
I'm almost never at ZMMM.

what is the deal with people bringing this thread up over and over?

Head-Admin - Me - not in the clan?
Site Owner - SinisteRing - Also not in clan?
- Rhys, he's also the Map Maker :\
Moderators - Zync, Bash&Smash, Pythagoras, Bartimaeus
- Not in clan/ Original maker, Is he in the clan?, Map maker, No powers on B.net

On the flip side.

Chieftan - Kuro - Only has moderation over Clan channel.
Shamans - SkapeGoatHiding - Nothing on forums
- Lagger09 - Nothing on forums
- ZMMM-InfoBot - Rhys, and again the map maker :\
- Who else is a Shaman?

I don't see any real power correlation between forums and B.net. I can't talk about the clan it self, as I prefer not to deal with them.

other then myself there is no correlation between powers on the forums and on bnet. If it wasn't for my bot I wouldn't even be involved in the channel but I have a second Cd Key so I may as well use it=)

With all that said, I would agree that the clan itself isn't very organized at the moment. The Chieftain hasn't been very active, and the Shamans don't seem to fit every quality that's wanted. I just don't think your power comment was very well researched/thought out.

Oh okay. Sorry, it wasn't clear to me.

SinisteRing wrote:

The clan is not the forums. The forums are not the clan.

Simple as that. They are separated and uncoordinated. That's why there's a category on the forums for clans in general... not a "Clan ZMMM" category. Yes, the clan is currently using this forums for the most part, and that's all that's happening, but more could be added when necessary. The community is not too large, so there's nothing to worry about.

Excatly why i got banned from the fourms? instead of Bnet?

killll wrote:

SinisteRing wrote:
The clan is not the forums. The forums are not the clan.

Simple as that. They are separated and uncoordinated. That's why there's a category on the forums for clans in general... not a "Clan ZMMM" category. Yes, the clan is currently using this forums for the most part, and that's all that's happening, but more could be added when necessary. The community is not too large, so there's nothing to worry about.


Excatly why i got banned from the fourms? instead of Bnet?

Yeah, they are all hypocrites.

So becuz other people decided to flame? i got banned? Nice one.

You're missing the "you started it" part of Sin's argument, killll. He's saying that YOU brought the flaming and bad blood here. Therefore, you had to be sacrificed to appease the gods of flaming and other obnoxious behavior.

Kosher?

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You're missing the "you started it" part of Sin's argument, killll. He's saying that YOU brought the flaming and bad blood here. Therefore, you had to be sacrificed to appease the gods of flaming and other obnoxious behavior.

Kosher?

Exactly, and that's stupid.

Lol "Kosher". I like that.

How is it stupid by the way Bal? I hate how you do that, always take a stance without backing it up with any sort of evidence. That's fine when you got a bunch of people agreeing with you as then it must be fairly obvious or they can back you up, but ....

It is stupid take responabilty for your own action just becuase i say "Fuck your mom" doesn't mean you can shot me without getting in trouble

No, but he can push you without getting into any trouble. Regardless - I was the one who didn't think you needed a ban when that happened if you remember

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No, but he can push you without getting into any trouble. Regardless - I was the one who didn't think you needed a ban when that happened if you remember Smile

Pushing that person would be a stupid reaction...

This /wasn't/ towards you jay but you jumped in.

I was also against it if you remember.

Yeah, i do your one of my buddies tho You've sorta allways been on my side.

killll wrote:

It is stupid take responabilty for your own action just becuase i say "Fuck your mom" doesn't mean you can shot me without getting in trouble

Well, actually...that might be taken as sexual harassment...which, I believe, could result in having the person being able to defend themselves...

That's not sexual harassment, Bart.