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PostSubject: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:21 pm

this is part 1 of my epic search to make mmm one of the top maps i am currently making icons for the map so yeah *gloats for a moment* so yeah lets begin... Crying or Very sad here we go..
Dark
carrions tooltip makes no indication of locus increase =/
Raisedead tooltip and and the actual spell have different durrations of 40 and 60
Skeletal mage magic missle does 0 dmg and magical blast has same hotkey as normal attack -_-'
Deathcoils tooltip in comparrison to spell have different power multipliers set as 6 10 and 7 10
Leech life tooltip/spell diff info one says 8 seconds other says 10
woo i finished all the dark that i noticed for the moment...YAY ME
Earth
interrupt rank 1 does nothing..
Dustdevil-its boring as crap replace it =P -tooltip/spell has diff mana costs -makes holys blind completely crap
-tooltip says different then spell on all ranks of its research 40% blind when its 15% should have +10% according to tip but it gives +15% max rank would be 80% blind if tooltip was right but spell says 75%
earths done =/
Fire
typo on burn heres an exert "..targets armor by 1 while..." add a comma after the 1
Firey veins makes no indication of power increase per rank on tooltip
Fire orb tooltip/spell have different aos set on them =/
Ice
freezing orb does 0 dmg tested and proven on each rank with each rank of ice nova =/
and tooltip/spell say different manas of 450/480 and 355/415
mana burns range is uber =/ seriously cut it down by 200 and its balanced
kiss of ice-wtf? tooltip reads.. Makes kiss of ice better.. well i wouldn't learn it if it made it worse!!! make some indication =/
Holy
Fix game notes set on mage it still reads -element light instead of holy
blind tooltip/spell wrong manas 35/25 -slow is ICES slow and makes then turn blue and shows lil ice burts and effect has ice icon =/ u fail
My recomendation remove blind replace with an offensive spell due to the fact that they only have 2 =/ and dust devil is way better on many levels if u need ideas message me i have a million of them that dont suck like the average noob
Brilliance has same icon as precision strike of lightning i gave u a new icon for brilliance cus i am your icon maker =P *gloats for a moment*
Resserection tooltip/spell says 0 mana / 65 mana

i will cover other elements later cus all that above took me 2 hours and 5 packs of bubble gum =/ so yeah wait for part 2 oh and heres a couple of very important fixs

rightside of the wars spawn archers are in back while leftside the archers are in front causing them to die sooner then say if a footman was in front

oh and this is really important GET A BETTER OPTIMIZER your map is getting really big and really laggy =/
if you dont have an optimizer then shame on you =/ that is all
oh yeah Earth armor +4% chance for giant to fissure..we no longer can morph =/
and one of the dudes in light island gives nothing for quest reward
add more synergys!
and 1 thing pythagoras if u know where rhys lives find him and smack him really really hard for me and harrass him to fix all that everyday =P
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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:44 pm

Wall of text with no format....People don't even read walls WITH format...Good luck with this topic XD

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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:40 pm

I might format it for them tomorrow. Seems to have good content.
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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:16 am

ive been waiting for this thread to be posted by Neko for awhile. Some structure would be excellent I agree, but none the less this is very valuable to me.

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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:22 am

hey i dun know formats so gimie a break im just the sexy dude who makes sexy icons and hell yes is has good content. i only give the best
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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:14 am

I believe infernal has the wrong manacosts in the tooltip, as well as the ice ultimates, and maybe some other ultimates as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:52 am

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I believe infernal has the wrong manacosts in the tooltip, as well as the ice ultimates, and maybe some other ultimates as well.
dude check the stuff like i did infernals fine and ice ultiamates i already posted for =/ i sat there for 2 hours writing everything and comparing everything each rank of infernal even gives the amount of hp and damage that it says because i checked it all =/
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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:48 am

By formatting we mean proper grammar, line-breaks, maybe some color or spacing, and generally anything that makes it easier to read than just a wall of text. Please make an effort to do so in the future.

But yeah, nice thread other than that.
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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:48 pm

meh if people are to lazy or simple to read walls of texts not my problem =/ all i did was point out rhys's mess now he can clean it up
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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:54 pm

But you did so in a way that created another mess. You have no right to call the 20 people who have to spend 3-4x as much time reading something lazy when you the single person could have spent 1.5x as much time to avoid that.
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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:37 pm

HolyNeko wrote:
This is part 1 of my epic search to make MM&M one of the top maps. I am currently making icons for the map so yeah... *gloats for a moment* So yeah lets begin... Crying or Very sad here we go..

Dark
-Carrion's tooltip makes no indication of locust increase =/

-Raise Dead tooltip and and the actual spell have different durations of 40 and 60

-Skeletal Mage magic missile does 0 dmg and magical blast has same hotkey as normal attack -_-'

-Deathcoil's tooltip in comparison to spell have different power multipliers set as 6 10 and 7 10

-Leech life tooltip/spell diff info one says 8 seconds other says 10
woo i finished all the dark that I noticed for the moment...YAY ME

Earth
-Interrupt rank 1 does nothing..

-Dust devil-its boring as crap replace it =P -tooltip/spell has diff mana costs -makes Holy's blind completely crap
-tooltip says different then spell on all ranks of its research 40% blind when its 15% should have +10% according to tip but it gives +15% max rank would be 80% blind if tooltip was right but spell says 75%
earths done =/

Fire
-Typo on burn, here's an excerpt "..targets armor by 1 while..." add a comma after the 1

-Firey veins makes no indication of power increase per rank on tooltip

-Fire orb tooltip/spell have different aos set on them =/

Ice
-Freezing orb does 0 dmg tested and proven on each rank with each rank of ice nova =/ and tooltip/spell say different mana is of 450/480 and 355/415

-Mana burns range is uber =/ seriously cut it down by 200 and its balanced

-Kiss of ice-wtf? tooltip reads.. Makes kiss of ice better.. well i wouldn't learn it if it made it worse!!! make some indication =/

Holy
-Fix game notes set on mage it still reads -element light instead of holy

-Blind tooltip/spell wrong mana is 35/25 -slow is ICES slow and makes then turn blue and shows lil ice bursts and effect has ice icon =/ u fail

My recommendation remove blind replace with an offensive spell due to the fact that they only have 2 =/ and dust devil is way better on many levels if u need ideas message me i have a million of them that dont suck like the average noob

-Brilliance has same icon as precision strike of lightning. I gave you a new icon for brilliance because I am your icon maker =P *gloats for a moment*

Ressurrection tooltip/spell says 0 mana / 65 mana
I will cover other elements later because all that above took me 2 hours and 5 packs of bubble gum =/ so yeah wait for part 2 oh and here's a couple of very important fixes

Right side of the wars spawn archers are in back while Left side the archers are in front causing them to die sooner then say if a footman was in front

oh and this is really important GET A BETTER OPTIMIZER your map is getting really big and really laggy =/
If you dont have an optimizer then shame on you =/ that is all

Oh yeah Earth armor +4% chance for giant to fissure..we no longer can morph =/
and one of the dudes in light island gives nothing for quest reward

Add more synergies!

And 1 thing pythagoras if u know where rhys lives find him and smack him really really hard for me and harass him to fix all that everyday =P


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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:49 pm

Yay!
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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:33 am


carrions tooltip makes no indication of locus increase =/

**It actually does, and just in case I went and double checked and in fact it does. Just in case you meant the shrines I checked that too and in fact it does.

Raisedead tooltip and and the actual spell have different durrations of 40 and 60

Skeletal mage magic missle does 0 dmg and magical blast has same hotkey as normal attack -_-'

Deathcoils tooltip in comparrison to spell have different power multipliers set as 6 10 and 7 10

Leech life tooltip/spell diff info one says 8 seconds other says 10


interrupt rank 1 does nothing..
**Odd occurrence, no idea why

Dustdevil- tooltip says different then spell on all ranks of its research 40% blind when its 15% should have +10% according to tip but it gives +15% max rank would be 80% blind if tooltip was right but spell says 75%
earths done =/


typo on burn heres an exert "..targets armor by 1 while..." add a comma after the 1

**Your Incorrect here :
Quote :
Burns target enemy unit in flames for up to 12 seconds, reducing the targets armor by 1 while they remain burning and you remain channeling.
**Adding a Coma after the 1 would signify a new section of the sentence or a pause in between these two sections of the sentence. "while they remain burning and you remain channeling" is an extension to the reducing the targets armor by 1 and would not make any sense with a coma in between the 1 and the while.


Firey veins makes no indication of power increase per rank on tooltip

Fire orb tooltip/spell have different aos set on them =/

freezing orb does 0 dmg tested and proven on each rank with each rank of ice nova =/
**Looking into this, its a tough one

and tooltip/spell say different manas of 450/480 and 355/415

mana burns range is uber =/ seriously cut it down by 200 and its balanced

kiss of ice-wtf? tooltip reads.. Makes kiss of ice better.. well i wouldn't learn it if it made it worse!!! make some indication

Fix game notes set on mage it still reads -element light instead of holy
What Where?

blind tooltip/spell wrong manas 35/25

Brilliance has same icon as precision strike of lightning i gave u a new icon for brilliance cus i am your icon maker =P


Resserection tooltip/spell says 0 mana / 65 mana

oh yeah Earth armor +4% chance for giant to fissure..we no longer can morph =/

and one of the dudes in light island gives nothing for quest reward
**Which Dude


Also on a side note I forgot which Icon the fire one was for, is it the fiery veins or the Flaming Essence?

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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:36 am

Quote :
typo on burn heres an exert "..targets armor by 1 while..." add a comma after the 1

Also, adding commas in tooltips causes them to malfunction and not show any text after the comma.

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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:38 am

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Fix game notes set on mage it still reads -element light instead of holy
What Where?

Make a new mage, and read the tooltips.
One of them tells you when you can choose a second Element, and it lists how to do so.

Eg.

-Element Earth
-Element Fire
-Element Light (Should be -Element Holy)
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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:48 am

DarkDjinni wrote:
Quote :
Fix game notes set on mage it still reads -element light instead of holy
What Where?

Make a new mage, and read the tooltips.
One of them tells you when you can choose a second Element, and it lists how to do so.

Eg.

-Element Earth
-Element Fire
-Element Light (Should be -Element Holy)

Thats what I thought but i checked the tips db and there is nothing for a light second element, in fact the only thing pertaining to a second element is this tip :

call AddTip( "|cffff9900You may choose your first element at level 5, and your second element at level 35.|r" )

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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:01 am

It's not a game tip, it's an icon that is shown in your interface under hold position I believe. If you mouse-over that icon it has a huge tooltip which tells you how to choose an element, and lists all the elements, including -element light. After you choose your first element I think the tooltip on the icon changes to tell you about second elements, but still lists -element light.


Here this should help:

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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:48 am

meh w.e not my problem =/ but a sh*tload did get fixed and a wall of text is still readable -_-'
thats what we did in the old days =P and i had no idea about the comma would cut it off =/ friggen jass
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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:00 am

Well, it's better to have it than not. But it we would all appreciate it if you formatted it a bit better.
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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:32 am

i dont really care to much neko, im happy to get someone willing to find these bugs so keep it coming.

Thanks ryu for the pic I will get that fixed next time I get into the Bug fixing mode now that I know what it is.

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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:34 pm

Tooltips for Replenish, both research and on Mage, need to be updated
Research still shows old values
Mage shows wrong AoE
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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:46 am

i was a tad lazy to day {like usual} and only did about 30 minutes of checking =/ found a bug and the on armaneth already mentioned. thunder storms tooltip/spell say different strike times by ammount of seconds. you should just make it strik more often but nerf its damage a little bit.
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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:16 am

HolyNeko wrote:
BlacRyu wrote:
I believe infernal has the wrong manacosts in the tooltip, as well as the ice ultimates, and maybe some other ultimates as well.
dude check the stuff like i did infernals fine and ice ultiamates i already posted for =/ i sat there for 2 hours writing everything and comparing everything each rank of infernal even gives the amount of hp and damage that it says because i checked it all =/

K I just checked and the actual problem I had was that the tooltip doesn't say anything about the manacost increasing, so after leveling it I could no longer cast it. And sorry for "Smearing" my "Guess" on your post Neko. Just trying to contribute to the thread.
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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:40 pm

lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Epic report list bugs/typos/unbalances   Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:37 pm

The research tooltip for Icy Orb states that by leveling it you reduce the mana cost on the orb. This tooltip is out of date as Icy Orb was changed to have the mana cost INCREASE as leveled.
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